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What about income from lost tourism? I'm one guy who's vowed to never travel to the USA simply because of the TSA. That's my tourist money lost. I'm pretty sure that there's at least a few others.
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"Mueller and Stewart estimate that government spending on homeland security over the 2002-11 period accounted for around $580 billion of that total." Meanwhile, 9/11 first responders are still waiting...
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Uh, I don't like the TSA, but isn't Techdirt always complaining about the RIAA and MPAA attributing every act of piracy as a one-to-one loss of revenue? Isn't shuffling the statistics from plane trips...
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tsa is partly the reason I loathe air travel the other part is the US monoculture; i don't need to travel by plane to visit the same goddamn walmarts, best buys, applebys, hard rock cafes, etc.. that...
View ArticleYour buttons were pushed to paralyze you with fear, Timmy.
Smartasses like you don't even recognize that they have buttons by which they're easily manipulated. But you do; we all do; those who think they're too smart to be conned are easy marks. -- I admit...
View ArticleRe: @AC: Timmy is mainly complaining that he's affected.
I don't want to be TOO rude on this point -- just rude enough -- but fact is that Timmy within last two weeks was gung-ho for the Navy Seal team that allegedly killed Bin Laden in Pakistan. Just in...
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Are you fucking kidding me? SEAL Team 6 got bin Laden, a man with American blood on his hands. I don't give a shit what political path you follow, a man who orchestrates the murder of American...
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Personally i avoid any US terminals like the plague. Sorry but you don't need any nude photos after i've already gone through security simply because i happen to transfer to another plane while in a US...
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I agree that the TSA isn't completely to blame for people choosing to drive rather than fly. It's a big part of it, but another huge part is the constant rise in airfares and baggage fees, overcrowded...
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Yeah, and kind of like how no terrorist would ever think of taking a bomb and blowing up BEFORE the checkpoint. You know... in the huge crowd of pissed off people waiting to be groped.
View ArticleRe: Your buttons were pushed to paralyze you with fear, Timmy.
"It's now irrelevant who staged 9/11, but it's obvious that "the terrorists have won" by achieving nearly all goals, completely wrecked American freedom. $3.1T is just the start: wars and surveillance...
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I'll tell you one that no longer flies. That's me. I don't want my money going to this dog and pony show. I'll drive thank you rather than put up with a big brother attitude that it should be alright...
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Hear Hear! I don't want to sexually assaulted (and that's what I call it when someone feels my genitals) simply so I can be in an air-born vehicle for a few hours. I actually dare a reader here to...
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Let's see. My options are: 1. Drive and risk my life 2. Bow to those who want to take my liberties away Hmmm. What would our Founding Fathers do?
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The bottom line is that humans are terrible at calculating risk. As a whole, we are broken machines when it comes to figuring out what we should really be worrying about. I like what Peter Sandman, an...
View ArticleRe: Re: Re: @AC: Timmy is mainly complaining that he's affected.
I must agree. I know that Mike prides himself on openness in the comments here, but out_of_the_blue has repeatedly shown, over the last few weeks, that he has nothing constructive to contribute to any...
View ArticleRe: Re: Re: Re: @AC: Timmy is mainly complaining that he's affected.
Mike can't block him. Ootb doesn't have an account. Mike could theoretically do an IP block, but that would be unjust, given the possibility of other people using the same computer(s) as Ootb. That,...
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i don't need to travel by plane to visit the same goddamn walmarts, best buys, applebys, hard rock cafes, etc.. that are in every damn town in the US If that's what you visit when you travel, you're...
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Agree with akp As much as I dislike TSA procedures, let's not confuse correlation with causation. There are too many factors at play to make the claim that the TSA has an impact of more deaths on the...
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A European perspective on terrorist risk. Which points out that in Europe you are more likely to drown in uor bathtub than be killed by terrorists.
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This is definitely true, and I would not assign any numbers to this with any certainty. But it's also hard to imagine that there isn't anybody driving instead of flying because of the TSA. My gut...
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I agree with nasch, there is probably a small but significant increase in traffic deaths as a result of the TSA, and it would be difficult to qualify this number reliably. However, equally difficult to...
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You're a douche bag that understands little to nothing. You raise opinions as points whereas the article is based in actual numbers. You stupid hack.
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Zero cannot be qualified, because we have no idea how many terrorist plans were not attempted because of the security theatre. That's a good point, it's possible there are would-be terrorists who...
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it's like you try to be the opposite of the article no matter the contents if the article said "OOTB is the smartest person ever!" i bet you'd come in and say "howdy howdy howdy ima total MORON!"
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**or post, article, post whatever
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"Hmmm. What would our Founding Fathers do?" Debate how a bill, law, regulation, does'nt affect individual rights negatively, and if so, amend or throw it out the window
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Offcourse, first, it must be established if a bill, law or regulation is in fact needed,
View ArticleRe: Re: Re: @AC: Timmy is mainly complaining that he's affected.
"SEAL Team 6 got bin Laden". "...a man who orchestrates the murder of American civilians..." "...the operation that finally got Osama bin Laden...". You believe what the government and mainstream media...
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"Three Trillion dollars in response to a single, albeit terrifying, event." Don't forget about the 2.5 trillion or so which magically disappeared from the Pentagon's records.
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I personally know a few dozen people who used to fly fairly regularly, but have quit doing so because of TSA. I also won't fly unless it's absolutely the only real choice due to TSA.
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No, I just read the article carefully, checked its sources, and I know how statistics can be misused. The numbers in the article related to driving vs. flying are from years ago, so it's not an...
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I have specifically avoided travelling in the US due to the "dog and pony show" myself. I recently decided I wanted to go to Hawaii too much to say no, so I went. And sure enough, the TSA process was...
View ArticleRe: Re: Re: Re: @AC: Timmy is mainly complaining that he's affected.
That's true, 9/11 was all CGI-generated and blamed on Bin Laden to allow Bush to rebuild the Pentagon and Cheney an excuse to invade Iraq. Riiiight. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid...
View ArticleIt's not the TSA
Years before 9/11, I went through security checks in Europe that equal anything ever done by TSA. This has been routine there for years. When you see guards in the airports with automatic weapons, and...
View ArticleTSA Perv Song
Twas the night before Christmas, and all through the house, everyone was crying (even our pet mouse). Passengers were molested by the blue-gloved pervs, I wanted to say no, but I lacked the nerve. The...
View ArticleResponse to: Anonymous Coward on Nov 21st, 2012 @ 10:48am
I don't fly because of the TSA, I now drive from LA to Chicago once a year. I like my balls rubbed down by sexy ladies....not 12 cheeseburger eating Getto queens and pedophiles. I actually enjoy the...
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+1 insightful and similarly non-US-bound following the more ludicrous security theatre and used to go pretty much every other year or so.
View ArticleRe: Re: Your buttons were pushed to paralyze you with fear, Timmy.
Might have even been worth reading without the pointless ad-homs, who knows?
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Years before 9/11, I went through security checks in Europe that equal anything ever done by TSA. This has been routine there for years.If you mean European security was generally way tighter and more...
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I drove a 1700 mile round trip this summer, from Texas to Tennessee. It cost me more in time and money. About 15 hours of driving (which I did straight, as I was alone and concerned about stopping) vs...
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I hate the cold, I really do. But I'd rather be discomforted due to the weather and get to see my friends without being molested than to continue with the current status quo. Totally off topic, but...
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just FYI, your link to "click here" takes you to the already filled out search page for TSA. I only glossed over the first page of results but I found one article had nothing to do with the TSA, but...
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You can almost write off an attack for the rest of this year. People were crowded together at all manner of stores during the "Grey Thursday" and "Black Friday" nonsense. If terrorists wanted a good...
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As previously mentioned and by other experts. The long long security lines are now more of a target prior to screening than being submitted to being searched etc... Just imagine how air travel will...
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